The Big Tex Ordnance Podcast

Aaron Cowan & Jon Dufresne - Sage Dynamics / Kinetic Consulting

The BTO Crew Season 2 Episode 83

In this episode, Chris and Ike from Big Tex Ordnance chat with Aaron Cowan and Jon Dufresne about training and gear. They discuss the importance of consistent practice and training, even for law enforcement officers. Aaron shares his perspective on why some police departments are switching to Staccato 2011 pistols and the potential training issues that may arise from that change. Jon talks about how he has evolved his class curriculums to better serve students at different skill levels. They also touch on various training aids like the Mantis X and ACE virtual trainer. Both Aaron and Jon share where people can find more information about their classes, gear, and other content.

Episode timeline with highlights:

00:00:00 : Jon shares a story about an officer friend who invested in training after a close call shooting and how it paid off in subsequent incidents
00:17:00 : Discussion on low standards of firearms training and qualification for many law enforcement agencies 
00:25:00 : Aaron's perspective on police departments switching to Staccato 2011 pistols and potential training issues
00:34:00 : Jon's analogy of training and practice being like filling up an "ooze tube" that slowly drains over time if you don't consistently refill it
00:57:00 : How Jon has evolved his class curriculums to better accommodate students at different skill levels and the importance of teaching students how to practice on their own
01:06:00 : Where to find more information on Aaron Cowan / Sage Dynamics classes and content
01:08:00 : Where to find more information on Jon Dufresne / Kinetic Consulting classes, gear, and content

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